Walnut Mantel Flattening

  • July 31, 2025 2:14 PM
    Message # 13526861

    Hey all,

    I'm a hobbiest woodworking from the south shore who has been dabbling for about 10 years now, making the odd shelf, cutting board, chest, cabinet, humidor, etc... Up until this point, my projects have been fairly small, or at least comprised of small parts. I do most of my work with power tools, though I do have some hand tools I use from time to time (gotta love that little block plane!) I have a 13 inch planer, and an 8 inch jointer. Suffice it to say, I've never had to flatten anything very large until now, nothing that wouldn't fit my power tools. I just re-did my kitchen, built a beautiful walnut shelf for it, but also want to replace the old mantel in there with a walnut one to match the shelf. I bought a beautiful piece of 3 (12/4) in. x ~12 in. x 8ft walnut that I've managed to re-saw down close to the dimensions I need but I'm having a terrible time flattening it with the #7 jointer plane I bought off EBay. I've watched many videos on flattening large slabs, I made winding sticks, I rebuilt the jointer plane ensuring the blade is perfectly square and ensured the bottom of the plane is flat. No matter what I do I cant seem to get this thing flat. When I plane across the width of the board, it never leaves it flat. There is always a hump in the middle or the side closest to me is lower than the rest of the width. Im a bit overwhelmed honestly.

    So I come here asking for guidance. At the end of the day, I need to flatten and square up a huge walnut board for the mantel but I don't have the power tools to fit it or the skills to do it with hand tools. I'm guessing something is wrong with my technique or my jointer plane is out of whack and I'm not realizing it.

    Any guidance would help!

    Just for fun: I've attached some pictures of the shelf the mantel is going to match :)

    Cheers,
    Rob

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  • August 01, 2025 9:10 AM
    Reply # 13527171 on 13526861
    Andrew Davis (Administrator)

    I would think of this as a slab even if it isn't live edge.  You can build a slab flattening mill easily, borrow one from someone who has one, or even use a slab flattening service (facebook marketplace).  I am curious - how long is the final dimension you are shooting for?  There are now multiple vendors selling slab flattening kits ranging from under $100 to over $1000.  YOu need to know your length and width.

  • August 01, 2025 9:37 AM
    Reply # 13527188 on 13526861

    I had a similar issue with some air dried walnut slabs so I built the attached sled to flatten them. Since my hand planing skills weren't up to flattening the slabs, the sled was a successful alternative. Since you have a planer you can do one of the following options.

    1. Build a similar sled

    2. Use a flat board, some wedges and hot glue or tape to flatten one side on your 13" planer

    3. Come over to my house to use my sled and my 20" planer

    Let me know if you need further assistance on this?


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    Last modified: August 01, 2025 9:39 AM | Michael Roughan
  • August 02, 2025 6:46 AM
    Reply # 13527524 on 13526861
    James Russell (Administrator)

    The hand plane is an excellent choice for flattening a board of the dimensions you described. It sounds to me like you may be having difficulty with where you are applying pressure to the plane as you're going across the board. This is a common problem for people who are new to hand planes. Basically, when starting the plane, the pressure should be on the front of the plane. As the plane fully engages on the board the pressure goes across the entire plane. As the plane is exiting the board the pressure should be on the back of the plane. If you don't follow this pressure sequence, you will likely plane and arc onto the face of the board. Unfortunately, if the board being flattened is already convex, the proper hand pressure will follow the convex surface and never flatten the board. See the second video for dealing with that problem.

    Since you have a 13-inch planer, you may find it easier to flatten the concave side of the board. The concave side is much easier to deal with than the convex side. After you have successfully flattened the concave side, you can put your board through your 13-inch planer because you now have a reference side. I recommend finish planing the side that went through the planer or the surface will show planer marks after the finish is applied. 

    I attached two YouTube videos that you may find helpful.

    https://youtu.be/D8K9dXuAvw0  around the 15-minute mark is a discussion on hand pressure. 

    If you must flatten the convex side first, the video below discusses the process at about the 16-minute mark.

    https://youtu.be/2_96gNMMc_g

    If you want to discuss this further, call me. My contact information is in the Member Directory.

    Jim Russell

    PS: Nice job on the shelf. It looks great.


    Last modified: August 02, 2025 6:48 AM | James Russell (Administrator)
  • August 03, 2025 8:43 AM
    Reply # 13527753 on 13526861

    Thanks all for advice, this is super helpful. I'm going to try to hand plane it again applying the correct pressure and if that doesn't yield good results I'll resort to a flattening jig. My finished length needs to be about 8 ft which makes using my planer really difficult. The piece is really really heavy and without at least 2 guys the board is hard to manage through the machine.

  • August 04, 2025 9:41 AM
    Reply # 13528038 on 13526861
    Andrew Davis (Administrator)

    while an 8 ft board is a long board to flatten, a board only 12 inches wide will flatten very quickly with a slab flattening mill; you can buy a kit for something so narrow for about $60 - check out Newman woodworking; the key is you need to be able to lay out the workpiece on something smooth and flat like a melamine or granite

  • August 05, 2025 8:19 AM
    Reply # 13528374 on 13526861
    Robert Carver (Administrator)

    I'll bet there are a few guild members who would be willing to lend hands if you decide to wrestle that long board through your planer. I've had success with a couple of roller stands on the infeed and outfeed sides. 


    The Guild is good at providing hands-on help, and it's a good way to meet people.

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